Talk: Maladryn

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60 Days!

That is... EVEN MORE AWESOME! Keep up the momentum! Thanks again for your contributions! (Talk) 17:32, August 11, 2017 (UTC)

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About your todo "High level recipe books"

Hi!
I've generated every recipebook in game with the new look like Advanced Alchemist Volume 100. I just need time to upload all of em along with all the other items. I just wanna say it coz i just bot upload/update them :)
In case you are looking for someting to edit .. may wanna take a look at the assassin class ? :) --    11:45, November 21, 2017 (UTC)

Tree Sapling Crawlers

Hi!
Sorry that i sorted out your todo with the Tree Sapling Crawlers =)
let me share my insight
If you click on the Census or XML in the box on the right of the collection you get to a census page that says in XML:

<reward_list>
 <reward coin_max="0" coin_min="0">
  <item_list>
    <item id="3634264452" quantity="1"/>
  </item_list>
  <selected_item_list>
   <selected_item id="3012863888" quantity="1"/>
   <selected_item id="3501634447" quantity="1"/>
  </selected_item_list>
 </reward>
</reward_list>

Items that are listed in the "item_list" are the ones you allways get.
Items that are listed in the "selected_item_list" are the ones you select on hand in.
To look into the item you can get there with the following links:

• http://census.daybreakgames.com/s:eq2i/xml/get/eq2/item/3634264452
• http://census.daybreakgames.com/s:eq2i/xml/get/eq2/item/3012863888
• http://census.daybreakgames.com/s:eq2i/xml/get/eq2/item/3501634447

On each article there you can see the itemlink and other informations about the item. --    10:28, December 19, 2017 (UTC)

Useful Pages

You can use the glossary to find all the "Cloak of" and Cloak of the" Census item glossary C 05 and Census item glossary C 06 as well. --    14:25, October 28, 2018 (UTC)

image names

Hi!
I moved your recently uploaded adorn screenshots, because they had a bit of to general name.
Please use the item name or a other more unique name when you upload images. "Electrified Adornment of Raw Power.png" and not just "Raw Power.png" as example there are 16 different "Raw Power" adornments ingame.
--    23:25, November 1, 2018 (UTC)

Hi there Chilli,

Yeah ... I had a bit of a lazy moment there, and didn't realise what a serious negative impact this can have.

I normally always apply a full description, so will continue with that.

Maladryn (talk) 16:04, November 2, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your understanding :)

it's one of the things i try to keep in check and sometimes look trough all the uploads to make sure i ain't missed one in the last weeks.

I know you pick quite good names normally when you upload images

--    19:08, November 2, 2018 (UTC)

Cloak image

Lay off the insults. I found the image on another page, and the article about the cloak was not showing one. I replaced what was obviously not a file with one that was. Considering that you had to upload a file with the title I removed, that makes us both diligent in trying to improve pages. It certainly does not make anyone an idiot. 71.234.213.29 13:50, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

Hello Maladryn

I ask you kindly to watch your language.

1. I saw that change and ain't reverted it because the original linked image "Cloak_of_the_Grand_Prankster_worn.jpg" wasn't there.
2. Thank you 71.234.213.29 for linking the image!
3. I wouldn't ask anyone to check if there is a png image is the jpg image isn't there.

--    14:29, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

By checking the History it would have been clear that it was me who had made the original screenshot submissions. Therefore in future, if there is a problem with any of my uploads, may I suggest that you contact me directly, so that I may rectify the problem myself.
Perhaps if there was a mandatory requirement to create an account before allowing any Tom, Dick or Harry to edit these pages (well intentioned or otherwise) communication would be better served! Rather than hiding behind the anonymity of "FANDOM user" and an IP address, that is virtually meaningless to most contributors. That is all I wish to say in response, and have no desire to enter into any further discussions on the matter which I now consider closed.
Thank you Maladryn (talk) 17:22, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

item links

Hi!
Thank you for your recent edits!
If possible plz add the item link from ingame to the items as well, easiest way to copy is .. linking it in the chat line -> shift+left -> crtl + c then just past in the wiki. copy from logfile works as well of course.
Only with the item link it's possible to catch a rename of an item.
--    07:34, June 18, 2019 (UTC)

Hi,
I can see the item links listed in the logfile, but I still don't understand how you get to see them in the chat window? I don't understand what you mean by: -> shift+left ->?? Is there any significance in the -> symbols either side? I assume by CTRL+C you mean COPY.
It makes sense to include the item links, and I'm happy to do this, but maybe you should've told me this 2 years ago ...
Maladryn (talk) 08:54, June 18, 2019 (UTC)

When you "shift+left click" the icon of the icon, you get the itemlink into the chat, where you can link items to others or to copy the itemlink. (I think it was with "shift+left click", because "crtl+left click" opens the preview window)

After "creating" the itemlink you can used "shift + Left" to select the item for copy

"->" meaned as: "then".

Yeah crtl+C as copy .. i just worte it because eq2 doesn't support cut with shift+delete / paste with shift+insert.

It's no big problem if you ain't added the itemlink. When there is only 1 item with that name, then it's no problem at all anyway.

Btw i often check items ingame, but i don't wanna link to item in a chat .. in that case i just do a "\" and paste the itemlink. The game tells me then that there is no command called "\someitem", but i can click on the someitem part there and look at the item

I'm planning to update all (over 200.000) items with the census information, because quite some of em keep changing like every month or two.

--    15:04, June 18, 2019 (UTC)

Hello again Chilli,
Thank you for your explanation. Unfortunately, it does not seem to work for me. Using SHIFT + left click on an icon results in only the item description being linked into the chat window, eg an urzarach spear (I have always used drag & drop to get the same result), but here we are looking for the itemlink, in this case: \aITEM 907639604 1394566801:an urzarach spear\/a which never appears in my chat window. I must be missing something, or maybe it depends on my personal settings within the game? Any ideas?
<EDIT> Forget the above, Chilli, I've found an alternative solution to my problem that works equally well! Maladryn (talk) 19:41, June 20, 2019 (UTC)

BTW I see that you're Austrian I too speak another language, but sadly my German is very poor, despite my grandfather being Austrian! He was a doctor in Wolkersdorf …
Sorry for being a pain with this but from your original comments I appreciate the importance of including itemlinks within articles, so any further help with this would be welcome ...
Maladryn (talk) 11:22, June 19, 2019 (UTC)

With a yellow adornment?

Hello!
I see you've added Midnight Soulsapper (with yellow adorn). I bring it up because there is already a Midnight Soulsapper. Since the yellow adornment can be removed and other yellow slot adornments put into its place, I think the convention is to just have the unadorned weapon entered into the wiki and not worry about the adorned versions, since there can be so many different possible combinations; especially since this weapon also has a white adornment slot as well.
Mere mortals like ourselves can't delete pages. If you were to want to ask Chilli to delete the page for you, you'd add the {{AfD}} template to the top of the page. -- Ejep520 (talk) 21:44, October 4, 2019 (UTC)

I changed Midnight Soulsapper (with yellow adorn) to a redirect to Midnight Soulsapper and added a note on the Midnight Soulsapper article.

Many items from that expansion that drop, drop with a adorn in them. Easiest way to handle it is to add a note i would say. --    14:02, October 5, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah that's fine ... although I wanted to discuss this issue with you as Midnight Soulsapper exists in both states (with and without a yellow adorn). Which is why I ultimately decided to create a separate page. Anyway, I have now added the word "also" to your note, to clarify the situation, and replaced the exam window without adorns. Maladryn (talk) 08:14, October 6, 2019 (UTC)

Help with named

Hi Maladryn,

just wanted to add a named-information

But unfortunatly the file "wildfire" already exists. Its a spell. How do i add now the page for the named correctly.

Can u help me?

cu Likukfuw
2020-01-08_22-48 (UTC)

Hi i moved the named information to Wildfire (Named).

there are several items, mobs or spells that share the same name. For those situations we use disambig articles lile Wildfire.

--    23:02, January 8, 2020 (UTC)

Meldrath the Marvelous

Hi Chillispike, hi Maladryn,

tried it with "Meldrath the Marvelous" but it get it working

---

{ { disambig } }

• Meldrath the Marvelous (Spirit)
• Meldrath the Marvelous (Clockwork)

---

Both have differenc images, but the images do not show up at the npc-pages and i can not create the "disambig"-page because the page "Meldrath the Marvelous" still exists with and forward to Meldrath the Marvelous (Spirit). I do not know how to solve this.

Any suggestions/help for me, pls?
cu Likukfuw
2020-01-12_22-54 (UTC)

When you move an article, you can choose to create a redirect or not. When you create a redirect you will get redirected to the new name when ever you do to redirect article.

Once you "followed" the redirect you should see an add an additional line below the article name saying "Redirected from [[original link]], when you click that link right there you land on an editable redirect article.

There a writedown on my talkpage User_talk:Chillispike#Some Incorrect Redirects how i deal with them while editing

--    22:39, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

Oh and i corrected Meldrath the Marvelous allready --    22:40, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

Thank you and saw it already as i tried to correct it. : )

I read the article but I do not understand the '"uncheck" the redirect option'. There is a "Follow this page"-Checkbox on rename-page...but it is by default unchecked when i open the rename-page...Do u mean that this "Follow this page"-checkbox must be unchecked?

cu Likukfuw
2020-01-12_22-54 (UTC)

I just tested it with my bot account, because that account is not an admin.

When i rename a n article, i see the options "Leave a redirect behind" (checked by default) and "Follow this page" (unchecked by default) so i thought everyone can see those options :/

--    07:00, January 13, 2020 (UTC)

Wikification?

Hi!
I'm not sure what other wikification Meret-pa needs, especially when compared to other Merchants. I suppose she could use a photo, but so could a fair number of other NPCs. -- Ejep520 (talk) 19:26, January 26, 2020 (UTC)

Hi
You did a great job with the price list. You should have removed the wikify note after you had added the location details and map ref. Yeah, I'll try to add a screenshot. Have now removed the wikify note.
Thanks
Maladryn (talk) 20:32, January 26, 2020 (UTC)

Obtain template calls

Hello!

Just a heads up for you: There are several templates for the "obtain" field of items that standardizes the text. To see what these all are, see EverQuest 2 Wiki:Obtain. In the case of one of your recent edits, I replaced the obtain text you gave with {{ItemFromQuest}}. I hope this helps! -- Ejep520 (talk) 17:34, March 14, 2020 (UTC)

Hi there

Whilst I appreciate your concern and willingness to help. The templates provided, are there as a guide, and perhaps even to assist those whose first language is not English. There is no right or wrong way to present facts as long as those facts are correct and accurate.

Over the years I have accumulated a large list of my own personal templates most of which have been taken from within these pages, and I apply whichever one I consider most appropriate. It would be a great injustice to rigidly adhere to the set templates without applying some flexibility, as well as our own personal stamp in these presentations. If you were to start correcting everything within EQ2Wiki according to just the templates available, you would be doing nothing else for the rest of your life.

It's really not worth worrying about. At the end of the day if Chilli isn't concerned, then neither should we be.

On another note, I can tell you that I almost always remember to apply copyright licenses to screenshots these days. :)

Take care
Maladryn (talk) 08:42, March 15, 2020 (UTC)

Update for TitleInformation needed ?

Hi!
Should i update the Template:TitleInformation ?
I could add

• the parameters "iname" and "idesc" for easier linking of images
• the "Setting Titles" from Title: the Bar Hopper

What do you think ?
--    19:06, April 3, 2020 (UTC)

Yes, definitely. At the moment we use a mish mash of styles for the Title pages, so some form of standardisation would be good. Take a look at this ... Blackguard (Title). That's a very poor example of a Title page. Personally I would prefer to see a page for Titles, in keeping with the general displays we already use.
So eg a template similar to the one we use for Items (see Title: "Swabber") but refined to cater for the specific requirements of a Title page. Including iname and idesc for images also makes much sense.
I could be persuaded to amend all the exisiting title pages to conform to a new standard page format ...
Maladryn (talk) 20:23, April 3, 2020 (UTC)

I created the template to standardize the categories and the look of the titles

Not many titles use the template atm, because i created the template 2018 and i ain't found the time to update em all :(

Once i got the current renames and item updates done, i will update the template.

--    21:24, April 3, 2020 (UTC)

Template:TitleInformation and Title: the Bar Hopper got updated. --    21:31, April 6, 2020 (UTC)

sceenshot updates

Hi!
a quick note about screenshot updates:
There is no need to make a new name for an image that is allready there, when the current one is spelled correctly. It's only needed when you change the file extension (like from jpg to png).
I updated File:Diamondwing Volaserpent (visible).jpg with the image you uploaded as "Diamondwing volaserpent visible.jpg" and deleted the new image.
Anyway it's no big deal, it makes it only harder to guess if in image is still used, needed or if it can be deleted.
--    10:30, September 22, 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. It was never my intention to create a new name for the scrnsht, it just happened that way. The original scrnsht was one of my own early attempts, and I was never happy with it. Normally if I replace or update a scrnsht I do use the same name.
Cheers --Maladryn (talk) 11:26, September 22, 2020 (UTC)

Disambigous pages

Hey again! I noticed you've been changing the the dab tags on the Shadows of the Betrayed weapons I've been working on to go to the disambigous page. My thought is there is only two items, weapon and house item, they should refer the user to each other. If there were a bunch of them I'd agree with linking to the Disambigous page. It even says on the page, "If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change that link to point directly to the intended article." Waiting to hear your thoughts. (sorry changed a couple back, thinking i forgot to do it in the first place before checking the history) Morgaloth (talk) 09:02, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I understand your argument here, where there is a direct link between the 2 items (ie a weapon may be turned into a trophy or vice versa). However I wouldn’t recommend you continue with that practice as you’re then creating one rule for some disambiguation pages, and another rule for others (where there are multiple items). It makes sense to maintain some sort of standard throughout the edits.
In all cases, we should be guided by Census, and accordingly go by what is set out there. I know it isn’t always spot on, but it does eventually come good. So please link your items back to the disambig page rather than to each other.
Ultimately, if you disagree, I will have to shoot you you can take it up with Chillispike since he’s an official administrator, and can arbitrate the issue. Maladryn (talk) 10:21, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi :)

I know (with the census data) that, there are currently 24.397 names that are used for multiple Versions of articles, (Collection, Weapon, collection item, House item and so on). The easiest way it to make disambig articles for them.

Of course that doesn't work for "every" article, mostly the expansions because there seems to be a item with the same name as the expansion. So it would be "bad" to have every expansion with a disambig article.

I try to hold the amount of "articles that should be a disambig article but they are not" low, to be able to massupdate the items.

"If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change that link to point directly to the intended article." - Means if you meaned the weapon, please link to the weapon instead of the disambig article.

For example Eylee's Woodworking Saw is known in 2 Versions Eylee's Woodworking Saw (House Item) and Eylee's Woodworking Saw (Weapon). Both dab should link to the Eylee's Woodworking Saw because you never know if other version of it get's added in the furture :(

That the weapon can be turned in to House Item and other way round, which is writen in the notes or obtain secion of em. But when someone searchs for it .. what are they looking for ? the Weapon or the House item? both can be possible.

In general it's a simple scruture disambig to article and article with dab back to disambig and/or with the notes to the other version of it.

I hope i could make it clear what i was thinking when i started to make so many disambig articles :)

--    18:44, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification, I'll change them to the Dab page and use that structure in the future.

Morgaloth (talk) 18:54, 2 May 2021 (UTC)