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POI template and images[]

Would there be any way possible to rig {{POIInformation}} so that it automatically loads an image that was uploaded at the proper name? For example, so Mouth of the Sanctum would automatically display Image:Mouth of the Sanctum.png? It would be nice if POI images don't have to be added to each POI article manually. Jeff (talk|stalk) 20:55, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Category changes and related discussions[]

Hi Admins!

I went into Category:Equipment Icons today and immediately noticed it had changed. Since I've been almost exclusively adding equipment, I use this page quite often. Was there a discussion concerning changing this page?

Since I've been adding so much to the equipment recently, I have mentally noted some changes that would make the equipment icons more efficient. This recent change certainly isn't one I would advocate... It actually adds another layer of complexity to the category.

I normally don't say anything about the way the Wiki is handled and just roll with the changes. If there was a discussion held concerning this change, I would have liked to weigh in and would have tried to persuade you against it. Where does one go to find information concerning these decisions or are they just made without regard to consensus?

Thank you in advance for your reply. User:Paceyourself (Talk) 16:05, January 19, 2014 (UTC)


Sorry about not making the changes more noticeable. The change started off as a discussion about The symbols Icons category on the talk page Category talk:Symbols Icons and it sort of evolved from there.
I wanted to organize all of the equipment icons by equipment slot then by types so when you click on a specific slot then you can narrow down the type of icon you were looking for before scanning through the list of images.
Like if you went to a Ranged Slot Category and then clicked on throwing icons. Instead of having the throwing, focus, and bow icons all in the same category.
Lordebon said something about working on an entirely new system to do away with the current system, but I wanted to try and improve the current system where I can in the mean time.
I still have a couple of ideas to improve the icons organization but I'll make sure to discuss them before I do anything. Jado818 (talk) 16:16, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
Like Jado said, it started as a discussion on the symbols icons talk page. Since it's a relatively minor change I didn't bring it up in a forum. I don't see how it particularly adds a lot of complexity however; all you have to do to show the subcategories on the Category:Equipment Icons page is click the "+" next to a category that has subcategories and they show up right. If anything it could in theory make finding an icon faster, since now say throwing pouch icons aren't mixed in with bow icons but rather have their own category.
Eventually all the equipment icons on the wiki will go away and icons will simply be referenced by a number and pulled from the SOE data feed/API. It should be coming some time this year, it just depends on when I can find the time to do the necessary work on the back-end and come up with a tool to quickly look up the icon number. --lordebon (talk) 17:39, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
Interesting! Where will this "number" be found? Sounds so much easier. I can't wait to give it a go. User:Paceyourself (Talk) 19:08, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
The number is looked up via the same API. For the first phase, what I'd like to do is basically have a link you'd click that searches the API for the item name and, if there's only one match (as there would be for 99% of items), returns the icon number to copy/paste in. If you want to see a (rough) example of how it works, take a look at Template:Lordebon Dev, which builds an icon using the icon number (in the example, 3748) and the rarity. It's not complete as I need to generate true background icons (the various colored 'clouds' you see as background in-game) and hook them up, right now it just uses a solid colored background for testing purposes. --lordebon (talk) 20:08, January 19, 2014 (UTC)

Startpage Menu Reform needed badly![]

I wrote it 1-2 years ago, nothing happened, same old useless oversized space-wasting menu is here. I suggest the following: 1. the TOV logo needs to be half size at least, way too big! 2. Menu reform: Reduce number of main items,

  • MERGE into 1 Category: Equipment, Monsters, Spells, Zones
  • Goal is to reduce the 8 main items to 4 and reduce the height of the menu!
  • CLASSES - QUESTS & Instances - USERGUIDES - Categories ,is all that should remain
  • the 4 sub-pages need to be remade to look better and be more helpful
  • I suggest putting the most useful Timelines right into the Quests sub-page
  • one goal is also to make the NEWS section even visible by reducing the height of the above stuff

Rittmeister64 (talk) 14:26, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

I wouldn't be against a change to the menu but I think having something to compare it too first would be a start. Maybe you could make an example page on your user page or a personal sand box page and show us what you'd like to see? Jado818 (talk) 15:12, February 7, 2014 (UTC)
It's quite some work to bring the titlepage and the 4 main sub-pages up to speed, and I wont do it unless I know it isn't a wasted effort. Besides it is a community effort anyway, not a 1 man job (except the very basic layout and graphics), and of course beforehand the chiefs here would need to sanction the basic reduction and suggest which 4 main Categories (or Names) are best serving. --Rittmeister64 (talk) 17:41, February 7, 2014 (UTC)
EverQuest 2 Wiki:Main Page/Copy for folks to edit for proposed changes. I don't have the time to devote to updating the main page currently, and you have some good suggestions. I did cut down the size of the ToV logo on the live version, it was taking up too much vertical space. I think there's way's we can still change that top bit as well, but at least it's a start for now. --lordebon (talk) 20:35, February 7, 2014 (UTC)
looks already better, now can see the whole menu at least without scrolling down. Rittmeister64 (talk) 06:28, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Rogue and Myrmidon armor sets[]

Hi Admins,

Rogue Myrmidon DELETE

Rogue and Myrmidon members

Rogue Myrmidon DELETE2

Proposed Combatant's article

I was going to start on the Rogue's Aura of Death (Armor Set) and pulled an in-game screenshot of the Clasp of Flowing Rime to see if the stats were outdated. When I did, I realized that it was part of the Combatant's Aura of Death (Armor Set) so I started to rename the article and received an error that the page already existed -> Combatant's Aura of Death (Armor Set).

At that point I saw that the set also included the outdated Myrmidon's Aura of Rage (Armor Set). I pulled an in-game screen of one of those members and found that it was also classified as the Combatant's Aura of Death (Armor Set).

Can we do away with the Combatant's page in its current incarnation and do something like the "Proposed Combatant's article" picture? (I just dummied this up real quick). Then we could do away with the two outdated sub-articles.

I'd be more than happy to work on the resulting Combatant's article if you'd like to move / delete / (whatever magic you do) to make this a bit more streamlined and accurate.

No rush... It's Sunday and I've got other things to do now. During the week I only have about an hour (sometimes two) to devote to the cause.

As always, thank you for your consideration! User:Paceyourself (Talk) 17:25, March 2, 2014 (UTC)

Check all the items in the set, if they all show the new name then go for updating Combatant's Aura of Death (Armor Set) and just tag the 2 archetype-specific ones RfG with a message pointing to the Combatant's one.
IIRC what happened was they ended up making some of the items usable by either archetype and combined the stats of the two separate sets into one newer set. There should be a similar case with the mage and priest sets as well I believe.
On a side note, how we display armor sets could really use some work. If you ever come up with any ideas for how we can improve it, open a forum topic on it and we can try to improve it. --lordebon (talk) 21:24, March 2, 2014 (UTC)

Template:EquipEffectDesc[]

Hi Admins!

I noticed an anomaly (not in the template) today that has me wondering about the equipment effect descriptions ({{EquipEffectDesc|Descr|Lvl}}). The equipment effect categorization ({{EquipmentEffect|Descr|Lvl}}) is unaffected by this anomaly.

If you'll notice I've been very active in updating and adding to the ({{EquipEffectDesc|Descr|Lvl}}) template and have become very reliant upon it's ability to save me and others a lot of typing in equipment additions and modifications. I think the theory (based on my conversations with Chillispike) is that a given effect is the same for every piece of equipment with that effect, except the differences between levels -> i.e. I, II, III, IV, etc.

I took the following screenshots within the past few days because I knew I'd just changed "Haste" (it seems like) a few times recently. Granted, they did add the PvP restrictions but the curious thing is that I've seen multiple variances in the "Attack Speed" parameter even though there's no Haste level stated. In these cases the adventure level is 90 but the Attack Speed is 35, 40 and 45. Two of them are Fabled, Attuneable, Heirloom and one is Mastercrafted. I can understand the Mastercrafted being lower than Fabled but I would expect a level modifier... How do we proceed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paceyourself (talkcontribs) 13:01, March 27, 2014‎ (UTC)

Haste is an old effect name, it's one they've used many times over the years (it originates before Attack Speed was ever a blue stat). When an effect is "contested" like that (meaning there's multiple variations with non-trivial differences) you can't add it to EquipEffectDesc, you just have to add the effect text manually to effectdesc. Most effects these days are the same for an exactly-identical name; the only difference you might see is damage numbers changing in tiny amounts due to potency/mainstat effects. When those old ones like Haste come along we just have to do them manually.
I've updated the template to flag Haste as invalid; anything that uses Haste with the template will get put in Category:Invalid EquipEffectDesc Calls. --lordebon (talk) 17:55, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation Lordebon! Just so I'm straight... We're going to continue to populate {{EquipmentEffect|Haste|}} for Haste items and then manually populate the {{EquipEffectDesc|Haste|}} field? If so, I may add this to my routine and incorporate a few edits of the Category:Invalid EquipEffectDesc Calls on a daily basis... LOL, I may finish it in a year or two!
While we're on the subject of the {{Template:EquipEffectDesc}}, would it be possible to put a space between effects or indent the effects (or something else) to make it easier to find or add a particular effect? User:Paceyourself (Talk) 19:14, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah you can still use EquipmentEffect to get the category and the links, it's just the desc template that won't work since there's multiple possibilities. As for spaces, you can't do that unless it's in a <!-- HTML Comment --> because any whitespace / returns will get included and mess up the spacing or bullets on the finished page. Your browser's find function (ctrl+f) should work, it's what I used to find the haste entry quickly. --lordebon (talk) 23:19, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Not sure why it should be manualy, because you could write it as {{EquipEffectDesc|Haste||35}} then the you get the attackspeed + number.
As far as i remember the call for Haste was {{EquipmentEffect|Attack Speed||Haste}} so it shows Haste but links to Category:Attack Speed (Equipment) --User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 12:08, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you gentlemen!
@ Lordebon - My question wasn't as much asking about finding existing effects as it was toward adding new effects. In a few instances (I don't have any examples) I've found effects out of alphabetical sequence. If I'd have relied on them being accurate I would have added the effects out of sequence. I don't know how that affects the search for effects... it may not?
@ Chillispike - It's funny you should mention {{EquipEffectDesc|Haste||35}}. I was wondering if we could just specify the percentage in the code and still have it pull the rest from the template. Is this available or will you have to do some "codey" things?
You guys are great! Thank you so much for allowing me to be a part of this wiki! User:Paceyourself (Talk) 14:18, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

i rewrote the haste section in Template:EquipEffectDesc with following text:

Haste=*When Equipped:
** Increases Attack Speed of caster by {{{3|{{info}}}}}|
HastePvP=*When Equipped:
**Increases Attack Speed of caster by {{{3|{{info}}}}}
**Must not be engaged in pvp combat
**This item may not be used in a PvP zone.|
Challenger's Dreadnaught Gauntlets had the "old call" before and works again now.
i added it in a 2 way Haste ist for pvp allso HastePvP is for not PvP
Question is are there actually 2 different texts? one for "attack speek" and one with "attack speed not for pvp"?
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 14:56, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
I see what you did there... BRILLIANT! It looks like all the *regular* Haste equipment has the PvP restrictions. Should the Haste section include the restrictions?
Haste=*When Equipped:
** Increases Attack Speed of caster by {{{3|{{info}}}}}|
**Must not be engaged in pvp combat
**This item may not be used in a PvP zone.|
EDIT: I didn't see where there was any PvP specifier that would change the wording. Is there actually PvP equipment with Haste? If so, I'll have to look a the wording...
Thanks for getting to this so quickly! User:Paceyourself (Talk) 15:29, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I forgot all about the third param on that template. As for the haste thing... all procs by default now are non-PVP, so the "will not work in pvp" type one should be the base name and Whatever-PVP should be the version that works in PVP, if such exists; doing it vice-versa is more confusing if you ask me. --lordebon (talk) 18:09, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

I have my bright moments ;)
Ok, since all Haste effects have the pvp lines i removed the HastePvP and added the PvP lines to Haste
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 19:19, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

RFG Articles[]

Hi Admins!

As I'm going through the equipment redlinks I've found a few articles that have been removed from the game and subsequently have equipment redlinks. An example is the Grandmaster Tailor's Advanced Compendium, Volume I (and its successive volumes). The RfG article contains an appropriate link to the replacement recipe book which includes the currently valid equipment links.

Question -> Would it be permissible to remove the brackets and replace them with braces in the RfG articles...
{{Equip|martial reptile hide boots}} to [[martial reptile hide boots]]

or replace the equipment with plain words
martial reptile hide boots ??

The latter would serve the purpose of preserving the article, removing the article from the redlinks and also removing any link to a dead page that will never be set up.

I would vote for the latter but will defer to your better judgement and wisdom in this matter. Thank you for your consideration! User:Paceyourself (Talk) 17:23, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

In general, if the item still exists in some form (e.g., wasn't removed from the actual game DB, can potentially be looked up in census) I'd say leave the Equip template redlink, someone can always come along and add it later.
Now, the specific example you mention isn't so simple. What I believe they did was keep the old books that existed but replaced it with a new one on the quest / merchants; you can even see it in-game: if you scribed an old one, it still shows up in your recipe filter as the old name, not the new name. What would probably be best to do here to resolve the redlinks is just update the RFG pages to point to the correct item names, since it seems to be just a caps issue.
On a side note, the RFG template supports a parameter for extra info like what was added in the SeeAlso there, putting it inside the RFG is much cleaner and preferred, if you happen across any more like that and want to tidy that bit up as well. --lordebon (talk) 19:01, April 26, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Lordebon!
I'm in tune with everything you've resolved here except one thing... In the old recipe book two of the three items transferred to the new recipe book capitalized as you noted. One of the items, *Tranquil Reptile Hide Slippers*, is in the new one as *Tranquil Banyan Root Slippers*. I verified these in the census DB prior to writing this request.
How would you like to handle that item (or any others that are discovered) in the old book? Point them to the updated/current item or hard code the words with an <!--HTML note that they don't exist in the SOE DB-->? Thanks for helping me get this resolved! User:Paceyourself (Talk) 19:37, April 26, 2014 (UTC)
In this case just update the old book, since they're basically identical and anyone with the old book would have had the recipe auto-updated/corrected; the slippers IIRC was a bug (cloth uses roots, not leather) that they probably fixed at some point either before or after the recipe book name swap. I imagine they just updated the entry for the old item to use the new name, thus no trace of the old name in census. --lordebon (talk) 22:15, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

Quested Class Rewards[]

Hi Admins,

When a person performs a repetitive task, many times they find characteristics and patterns that describe or refine the task. As you know I've been systematically clearing the equipment redlinks and have come across the following pattern that could affect the end-user's understanding of equipment usability for their class.

I'm using the quest The Horn of Phrotis because it illustrates the pattern that I'm seeing.

Paceyourself The Horn of Phrotis Rewards

The attached analysis highlights the Scout class but the same could hold true for other classes (i.e. Berserker, Guardian, etc). According to the equipment description in the quest reward section, only the Thief's Blood-Dyed Vambraces appear to be available for Scouts when in fact the previous three rewards are also available to them.

Unaware or uninitiated users may rely on the description and miss the other pieces. I think most users by the time they reach level 20 are familiar with the type of armor their class can wear (I may be wrong). A Scout would not look at plate or cloth armor but they would be interested in leather or chain armor.

It appears that instead of using specific classes as a descriptor, the type (Chain, Leather, Cloth or Plate) of equipment should be used. Just my two cents! Thank you for listening... User:Paceyourself (Talk) 17:09, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

The rewards are an up and down :/, it got a little better over time since plate waering classes can't use cloth/leather/chain anymore.
There where rewards based on your archetype (Mage), class (Enchanter) or your subclass (Coercer).
Then there are rewards based on your Armor Type
so for me there isn't the one right way to write them sadly, it has to be judged on each one.
But in general it's most likely that the rewards from the same zone and same expansion are handled in the same way.
Even then some rewards, like chain that gives block chance or mitigation increase can be worth for scouts when they solo or need to "offtank"
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 22:10, May 11, 2014 (UTC)
Hi Chilli,
I think what I'm trying to say is that it appears to be misleading to new, unaware end-users (Scouts in this case) that wouldn't look at the "Brawler, Druid or Shaman" equipment, only the "All Scouts" equipment. The point you made concerning "block chance or mitigation increase" would be valuable to a new player looking for armor. They may know the type (chain, leather) but may not be aware of cross-compatible classes (Brawler, Druid) and end up missing out on items that could be useful for them.
Not everyone is as well versed in the intricacies of armor and classes as veteran users and I think the Wiki is geared more toward new users that are trying to understand the game. It's an "ease of use and understanding" topic more than anything. I'm not one to change anything without consensus (I go by the *Ask permission, not forgiveness* doctrine), so this is just food for thought! Thank you for your time! User:Paceyourself (Talk) 16:09, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

Curious Anomaly[]

Hello Admins!

Over the course of time I've created a series of cross-checks for myself that help to identify tyops typos. I fix them before I ever start an article because once it's created under an incorrect name it's a hassle to change everything. I try to nip it in the bud before that ever becomes an issue. It's rare that there's one in my posts (although they do happen). When I come across any, I do a *minor* edit and fix them prior to starting an article..

Today I was working on the Occultist's Seraphic (Armor Set) and my cross-check indicated that the Epaulets redlink had a spelling error. Upon closer examination I found that the issue was in the word *Occultist*. I thought this was unusual since they all end in that word. What I found that was odd...

In the SOE database, the epaulets cannot be found using Occultist, they are found using the word Occulist. Note that it's missing the "t" (See screenshot). On top of that there's no "appearance" available for this piece of equipment.

How do we proceed with this? Use the incorrect spelling? Report to SOE? Thank you in advance for your guidance. User:Paceyourself (Talk) 19:09, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

We always go with how things are in-game, so if it's misspelled there, use the misspelled name on the wiki (if they fix it later, we can fix it on the wiki). As for it not having an appearance, that's not too unusual for cloth shoulders; because the chest is usually a robe, the shoulders will sometimes have no appearance (since the robe already covers that area). --lordebon (talk) 00:55, June 27, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Lordebon! I'll change the link and go from there. User:Paceyourself (Talk) 15:24, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

Article Link[]

Hi Admins!

Surprise, surprise, I have a question! While waiting for EQ2 to come online this morning I thought I'd look at recent image uploads to see if they had the proper licensing. I found a few and started doing a minor update to add that information.

I noticed something that has me curious. After I added the licensing info I looked at the image and noticed it was missing the lower sections entitled "Appears on these pages" and "Read more" as shown on most images.

The related articles exist so what is the catalyst that forces the inclusion of these sections? User:Paceyourself (Talk) 15:35, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

"Appears on those pages" comes when the wiki knows that it is used in a article, .. oh what a surprise :D
ok now serious, the wiki only knows it reall when the article that uses it is saved after the image got uploaded. This can be done manually or it happens after the next wikibot run that updates every article. if you wanna do it manually, open the article and save it right away without changeing anything.
so if you go to Coif of the Frostborn and make a blank edit on that article the File:Coif_of_the_Frostborn.png will know that it's used.
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 16:47, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
Once again... You da man! User:Paceyourself (Talk) 16:55, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

Grandmaster Spell Change on 2. Oct[]

Info from SOE 5 Exciting Places to Adventure and Grandmaster Spells
Thinking about this .. shall we have bot running through Category:Spells to change nogm=y to nogm=
 ? I'm aware that not all spells can be grandmastered, but the most of them can be grandmastered. So be the looks of it bot changes all to grandmaster able and then manually change the other let's guess 5% back to not grandmaster able.
Or we check with the information once it goes live and change the 95% to "grandmaster able"
What do you think? --User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 19:13, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Eh, not sure if we need a bot run for it, adding a blank field for it that someone has to come back and fill in doesn't really serve much purpose, someone still has to go back and edit it.
That said, we need to add support for the expansion versions ("Ancient") too, won't be that hard thankfully, probably just set it up with an ancient=y flag to enable it, since it'll only be a smaller subset that get them --lordebon (talk) 18:42, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
Somethigng else popped in my mind aswell .. the current GM coivces stay as they are ..
We should change the nogm=| to freegm=yes| so it's possible to show that it's a GM choice
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 10:53, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Housing Images[]

Yup, it's me again.. finally getting back into EQ2.

While reinstalling EQ2, I noticed something, and it reminded me of an item on my old, ever-growing "to-do" list; to beef up the entries on housing.

(Assuming a recent EQ2 installation,) under the \Installed Games\EverQuest II\UI\Default\images\housing_images\ directory, there is a collection of JPG images that appear to be screenshots of most of the in-game housing in EQ2. I believe these are actually displayed in-game when you go to view/purchase a house.

My question is this: do the copyright/attribution/licensing of image uploads include a provision for using such images? I'd love to be able to upload and reference those images (in sort of a bulk fashion), rather than go through the process of screen capping, sorting, and uploading every single individual house.

The images themselves aren't perfect, and don't capture every room or angle, but I think they'd be a great starting point (-SOMETHING- is better than nothing). Maybe having some images up there would encourage others to upload additional screenshots, showing other angles and rooms. =)

Anyway, that's my question of the moment. As always, thank you! --Donhead (talk) 23:32, December 1, 2014 (UTC)

IANAL, but you should be okay to use them, just tag them as some sort of in-game image (they are used in-game after all). Pretty much all of what comes out of the came is copyright SOE, but we attribute them and our use of it generally falls under fair use when not explicitly authorized. In the entire history of EQ2i (going back to the early days of EQ2) there has not been a copyright issue from SOE, and given their partnership with wikia and such I would doubt there will be ;) --lordebon (talk) 02:06, December 2, 2014 (UTC)
Cool, I'll start working on that see how it goes. Appreciate the feedback! --Donhead (talk) 17:34, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

"Claiming history"[]

I added some content but wasn't logged in, is there a way to attach my contributions to my account after the fact? It shows my content when I search by IP, but I'm not sure how to "claim" the anonymous content I contributed. (There are 4 articles I believe)

Slimicus (talk) 14:56, December 9, 2014 (UTC)

Just log in, then edit the article and it will add the page to your contribs.
Nope you can't attach those those to your contributions afterwards. but you can write a comment on your user page that the ip you when you are not logged in. -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 17:52, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

New Weapon Stat[]

Hello!

i found a weapon with hate gain stat. It seems the weapon template does not have it, or did i just not look in the right spot?

(Stabbystabhappy (talk) 09:02, January 24, 2015 (UTC)) Alangria

Parameter is there it's called "hate" you can see a full list at Template:EquipInformation#Parameters
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 17:52, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Obsolete loot[]

on my journey through old world raid content i notice that alot loot tables in the wiki are from the old days and obsolete. Should i mark them somehow to be removed?

Example: Alangria The redlinks is the new loot (yet to be inserted by me)

(Stabbystabhappy (talk) 15:53, January 25, 2015 (UTC))

The old items where in game so they should get the {{RFG|when, why}} when they don't drop anymore. We don't remove them so it's possible to keep track of them.
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 17:52, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Harvesting category pages needing T11[]

Greetings! The "Category:Ore Harvests", "Category:Root Harvests", and potentially others have a table that lists all the tiers of harvests. I recently started to add the T11 harvests, but they aren't recognizing their levels. I assume that's a template or something somewhere that needs to be updated, but that's a little out of my expertise. If someone could take a look, that would be great. Thank you! --Donhead (talk) 12:49, April 21, 2015 (UTC)

Hi, i updated the template to show t11 (96 - 105) as well -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 16:27, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

TLE Servers[]

We "defo" should add the new TLE Servers as article, but i really don't have a clue atm how we should deal with the TLE servers content wise.
I don't mind an Artile TLE Server or similar that shows the information on what the Server is atm. (which expansion is active, which zone got removed and so on)
But i'm not to happy atm with editing back and forth the each relevant article due the TLE servers. (like Isle of Refuge‎ got added to the game on TLE for prolly 3months or so)
Q: what's your opinion?
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 12:45, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

It just came to my mind .. if the TLE servers to either Expansion by Expansion or Update by Update we could advance the Quest, Zone and Instance template .. well all relate to 1 TLE template .. the uses the Patch so "say" this is may not ingame for TLE Servers yet. -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 05:29, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
What about if we modify the RfG template (and similar) to add an option for TLE? That way it'd say it's removed from the game on normal servers but exists on the TLE servers. --lordebon (talk) 21:04, August 10, 2015 (UTC)
possible but what about the things that are not on TLE servers yet? for examlple Griffin Egg for the Steppes Tower Stations. or like every expansion that came after? :/ -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 10:49, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

From what I am reading on the forums, there are probably some new low-level quests in the starting cities and lord only knows what on the new Island they got. We probably need templates set up for TLE-only quests. I personally don't intend to roll a toon on a TLE server, so I won't be documenting them, but maybe someone will? --User:Sigrdrifa (Talk) 13:35, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

Considering Time-Locked Expansion Server FAQ it's prolly best to say it's unlocked on TLE or locked on TLE servers. -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 18:28, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

Agnostic Zone info?[]

I was perusing the Zones By Level page, and it occurred to me that the agnostic (Dungeon Finder) zones do not appear to be listed there, or really anywhere. It does appear as though some pages on the zones and/or named encounters therein have been created, but not in any real consistent fashion.

I'm thinking that there should be a category specifically for them, and perhaps a category for named monsters therein (much like a regular zone would have), or at least for the names that have a slightly different strategy, and they should be added to the pages that reference zones and instances (which is easy enough).

Before I did any real work, I just wanted to get some feedback on what you felt was the best way to go about it. -- Donhead (talk) 21:21, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

If it helps users find info faster, then I'm all for it. Is I don't know that I'm crazy about the "agnostic" being part of the name, of course, but that's me. :)--Kodia (talk) 12:27, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Template:LnLInformation[]

Someone might consider updating this template so it no longer says that LnL quests are started by examining a book, since it's been quite a few years now since the game was changed so you can start an LnL quest by examining any LnL drop. I'd do it myself, but, y'know, it's protected. Jeff (talk·stalk) 05:23, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Changed it to "Most Lore and Legend Quests can be started either with a book or by examining one of the quest items."
I know it's a quick change/fix, i hope that does it. If you have an other idea for the text please let me know -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 12:57, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Images and Licensing[]

I just checked the upload logs (should have done that earlier) and saw that ...

  1. a large amount of pictures don't have a licensing picked at all.
    • Question 1: Should someone change that?
    • Question 2: "Should" we add a default licensing if not 1 got picked from the list?
  2. Licensing SOE -> DBC
    • Question 3: ok if i just change the template? because i guess DBC just took over those Licensing from SOE
    • Question 4: Could someone change the entry in the list from SOE to DBC?

-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 20:09, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

I don't know how complicated this would be to do, but my thoughts are this. We should set it so that if someone fails to select an option from the drop down menu, it gets sorted into a category of "images that need to be verified and sorted" and then somebody could go through the images and change them. Maybe make something like {{ss-us}}} for unsorted images. Another thing that might help is if someone could edit the image upload page so it brings more attention to the licensing drop down menu. Lyrics Wiki has a lot of instruction and information in eye-catching templates on their image upload page, for example...
I would also think simply changing the templates to read DBC instead of SOE would be enough.
Lastly, I could be mistaken but I thought that uploading screenshots from Beta was against the rules for beta testers - I know it's been the rules in the past, though I didn't actually see it this time around. I do know that in-game screenshots are disabled though. Jeff (talk·stalk) 21:49, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
This is an open beta, there was no NDA required. The game won't save screenshots, but I can certainly snap a screenshot from my computer and paste that into an image editing tool. Thus far, I have not been making a lot of screenshots of stuff because I'd rather get the text documentation done first. If I get through with enough testing, I'll start making screenshots of NPCs and the like and upload en mass. -- --User:Sigrdrifa (Talk) 23:26, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
Alright, well, if there's no NDA I can get started on helping out with screenshots too. Jeff (talk·stalk) 00:43, November 4, 2015 (UTC)

Census and us[]

Ok so i found out to get a item list together so i actually could collect every item from census and transform it into a wikia template used article.
Steps:

  1. get the whole itemlist together for all of the currently 202726 items
  2. get all the items from the census
  3. parse the xml to wikia template
  4. compare exsisting items on wikia with the census ones
    • "update" the wikia article with info from the census (things like iconid also handeld automatically)
    • upload the missing articles.

Well that would be the plan and yeah it defo will take some time to get it done :/ Also it doesn't mean i would update every article right away. i will do a test run on serval items with different informations to get it right.
Downside (or plus side depents on how you see it), it will be semi automatic so i will have to manually start the gathering of the information. Once i got the base sorted, it will be easier to get the new items from the census.
I'll prolly use Lazarus to get it working, what do you think? -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 12:13, November 30, 2015 (UTC)

Update: managed to get the item list from census and managed to parse the xml (itemlist and items). converting to eq2.wikia template shouldn't be to hard
Only need to figure how i can upload/import lot's of articles, when the time comes :)
getting all known equipment on wikia isn't a problem, just need to figure out how i can export them so i can compare em easier.
on that note i'll try to create some items that aren't there yet first so see how it goes and stuff
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 21:42, December 3, 2015 (UTC)
I never said i stopped fully, but yeah i took quite some breaks inbetween.
Current state:
  • i generate the nearly every article
  • i use MariaDB to handle the names, and to search through them
  • Looking for a way to add the articles that are not on the wikia
    • There is a total of over 220k - i'll exclude spell scrolls and coin purses when i add them to wikia
    • I don't look forward to add them all semi automatic with AWB
    • I do think of writing my own Bot. Due the limit's of the wiki database, i can't do like 8 async uploads (start 8 at once => 8 edits per second).
      • that means i'll use 1 sync upload (one after the one)
      • that allso means i'll start little and add a way to upload one at the time manually
      • once that works i'll see how i do the big run, prolly with steps of 1000 at the time
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 21:14, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

Sorting of item names done and i will use AWB to upload the articles figured there is a autosave option as well (jipii)
To see how i call the items and to see how they are currently called i created articles as "glossary" in the Category:Census item Glossary.
Current step is to "slowly" start uploading them and moving quite some article if they are named wrong. I will use those to "limit" the uploads from my bot as well which reduce "each" run to like 1200 uploads (all links from 1 Glossary page)
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 15:40, August 11, 2017 (UTC)

bot run for "unique" items started .. will do em in a batch of 2000 items while skipping exsisting acrticles.
unique= there is only 1 item named like this and no Collection, Quest or Archievement with the same name
After the first batch i check if something need to be fixed/changed that i forgot about.
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 18:23, August 12, 2017 (UTC)
Advanced Alchemist Volume 100 is the first recipe book with matching ingame look
Question: Shall i make all recipe books like that or shall i keep it the "old way" like Advanced Alchemist Volume 90 ?
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 17:07, August 25, 2017 (UTC)
Note: I updated so far all with the matching ingame look
the last_update on census is sadly not a reliable source for actual changes. Due that I have as "base" the last_update state of items from 19.08.2017
that means when i parse all items with the current state i will only update them later on when something else then "last_update" changes => means i can update faster and i exclude items that are uptodate allready.
Another thing i will fix "no-rent" and the classes .. for example currently i do either all classes, archtype or actual class only but not like all Brawlers
Iteminformation and Equipinformation have a workround atm - they replace no-rent with Temporary - once i fixed em all i'll prolly remove that workaround from the templates.
once i have my current batch (of 2000) done, i will update the needed ones of the 18.000 i've done so far.
oh and btw .. we'll break the 100.000 content page mark "soon" =)
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 19:06, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

articlename = altname <pagename>[]

I changed 3 templates so far to show a different Articlename. If altname is used it will show "Altname < Pagename >". For example Jabber Longwind (Tenebrous Tangle) shows as Articlename now "Jabber Longwind < Jabber Longwind (Tenebrous Tangle) >". I hope ppl like the change and that is easier to see if altname got used or not. Please note that the altname is used if you search for the item/quest and so on on other websides as well.
The following templates use that kind of Information atm:

-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 17:29, February 27, 2016 (UTC)

Added it to Template:QuestInformation as well. -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 09:09, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

The following templates use it now, with a "even" smaller font.

I hope that i ain't forgot to change a template -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 21:52, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

New Brew Day Collection Needs tweaks, LU Info[]

Heya, I added the new collection due when Brew Day goes live. It requires Terrors of Thalumbra, so I did list it as a collection tied to that Xpac. For the life of me though, I have no clue how to tell which LU we're on anymore. I looked at the highest number listed on the wiki, but it seems to stop at AoM and ToT is it's own thing. Oh and Special Notes is showing in red, so I must have the formatting jacked up for that. I was trying to explain several important points (how it's tied to the Xpac, faction needed, etc). I don't normally add collections, so I am not very versed in those suckers. I based what I put up on the previous Brew Day collection. Anywho, if anyone wants to pop over and tweak/fix, it is More Brews is Good Brews. Yasuewho (talk) 04:08, February 28, 2016 (UTC)Yasuewho

it's fine. To finish the collection you need ToT to get there. The collection is only there while Brew Day, but other collections are as well. Atm it's ok. -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 14:26, February 28, 2016 (UTC)

GU100 Closed Beta[]

I created User:Sigrdrifa/Sandbox to have a place where I can build GU100 Beta articles. Is that okay? Also, once it goes live, is there any easy way to move the files to their expected locations quickly? --User:Sigrdrifa (Talk) 21:36, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

If the content is under NDA, don't create them at all on wikia.
Apart from that, i'm correcting the Articles to be "LU100" (Live Update and not Game Update, I know SOE called them GU as well, but we call LU to show that they are live actually)
Please use {{Beta|LU100}} to flag em for the LU100 Beta =)
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 09:04, April 21, 2016 (UTC)
oh and is the Zone called "Zek, The Scourge Wastes" or "Zek, the Scourge Wastes" ??, I've ssen both on the wiki

Epic 2.0[]

Just wanted to say .. i prepared all 26 epic 2.0 weapon timelines, of course it can be that it's a bit to much and maybe there are only 4 timelines (by archtype). I wanted to have em prepared so ppl can edit informations about it on the go once it's live or NDA got lifted a bit easier. In case there are fewer timelines needed we still can merge em together where needed =)
I also moved the epic weapon timelines more to top on all classes, since many will do em and it's easier to get there quicker. -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 21:53, October 9, 2016 (UTC)

Warn or Block?[]

Contributions from an IP
I think that is a case of "Excessive or repeated use of vulgar/abusive language" according to "EverQuest 2 Wiki:Policy/DNP"
Shall we/i just a warning on his talk page for now or ban right away (which looks a bit harsh) ?
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 17:28, January 9, 2018 (UTC)

Monobook now gone for real[]

The monobook skin got removed by wikia and is now gone for real. -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 11:06, May 25, 2018 (UTC)

I've been using PseudoMonobook but Oasis is as intolerable as I remember it being. Jeff (talk·stalk) 03:41, May 26, 2018 (UTC)
The scaling font is the most annoying feature for me, so i changed my global.css to "@media only screen and (min-width:1596px){.WikiaPage .WikiaArticle{font-size:14px;line-height:20px}}" to turn it off.
But that pseudoMonobook looks kinda decent es well, i'll try it. Thanks for the info McJeff.
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 08:47, May 26, 2018 (UTC)
I hate Oasis, and went about installing PseudoMonobook. That went well, except for that puke-a-riffic maroon color. I tried my best to eradicate the maroon and go to a medium blue (#003399). This worked only partially: the background of the nav area stubbornly remains an obnoxious purple (#36024E). See my CSS edits. Any suggestions as to how to get the purple to be blue? --User:Sigrdrifa (Talk) 17:06, May 26, 2018 (UTC)
The thing that's bugging me the most right now is not being able to quickly access any of the links I actually want - Special:RecentChanges, Special:MultipleUpload, Special:WhatLinksHere. Having the images pop up in a new window instead of just going to their page is frustrating too. Jeff (talk·stalk) 17:17, May 26, 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback!
I'm using PseudoMonobook now via community.wikia, which means it effects all the wikia sites while i'm logged in.
At the buttom you should see your Toolbar that you can customize. I added a few features to it. I do have Recent Changes and What links here on every article.
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 10:30, May 28, 2018 (UTC)

I had a bug yesterday with the PseudoMonobook, Image uploads didn't work correctly. I fixed it by updating my global.css.
@Sigrdrifa and @Jeff: you might wanna update your css. I used the same "dev PseudoMonobook" like you, which bugged me out on image uploads. forexample File:Ginnie Hebblethwaite.jpg bugged when i uploaded it as Chillispike with the dev PseudoMonom but worked as Bot with the default Skin.
@Jeff .. in the current PseudoMonobook, there is a shortcut link at the buttom accessable with "." as well, kinda quick way to get to the links you mentioned.
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 07:46, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

Massive revamp of equipment stats[]

Don't know if you've all noticed this yet, but STR AGI WIS INT are out and "Primary Stats" are in. They've also consolidated some stuff into "Offensive Skills" "Defensive Skills" and "Spell Skills" but I'm not sure exactly which greenstats went into which one. Bluestats seem mostly unaffected. Jeff (talk·stalk) 20:47, May 29, 2018 (UTC)

For my opinion on this, they might as well just cut things down to 2 stats - "uberness" and "raid gear farmed" - since they've dumbed the game down to the point that there's no longer any art to selecting a good set of gear. Jeff (talk·stalk) 20:50, May 29, 2018 (UTC)
working on it at with my DevTemplate2 -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 11:15, May 30, 2018 (UTC)
Template:EquipInformation‎ update Number1 done
I made it in a way that
agi, int, str and wis turn into Primary Attributes
vsarcane, vselemental, vsnoxious turn into Resitances
The "new" skills got added as well, but they don't turn from the old skills to the new skills .. well at least not yet.
Reason is that census does show the new skills, but not the Primary Attributes and the Resistances
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 17:41, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

eq2.wikia.com to eq2.fandom.com[]

fandom will move eq2.wikia.com to eq2.fandom.com (along with 3500 other wikis), once it got moved eq2.wikia.com will redirect to eq2.fandom.com. for more information please see How we're testing the fandom.com domain migration -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 19:21, October 5, 2018 (UTC)

Flags[]

I activated a new Template called Template:Flags on the templates that are listed above. The Template now sorts the Flags as they are shown ingame, "downside" of that change is that every Flag needs to be known in that template, considering that all Flags are known in 1 Template it easy to add a new Flag if needed. In case there are Problems with the flags drop a note either on this talk page, on the flags talk page or on my talkpage.
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 15:22, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Major changes to Mercenary Stat Comparisons page[]

A user has changed the whole Mercenary Stat Comparisons page to string the spells out in to separate columns. We already have a huge issue is that the stat page is too wide. I think it needs to be rolled back so the spells are all in one column, with each merc's spells in one cell of the table. Is there some simple way to roll back all at once? --User:Sigrdrifa (Talk) 17:37, December 19, 2019 (UTC)

The easiest way is to go to the history of the article and find the last "good" Version of it, then you can undo all changes back to that specific edit.-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 19:20, December 19, 2019 (UTC)

Icons from external sources like census.daybreak.com not working -> working again[]

With the change of the Wiki to UCP the external images (icons) are not working. Fandom support is contacted waiting for reply. -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 22:25, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

User:Pcj helped me and gave me bot to massupload images (in this case icons)
My bot will download the icons from census and upload new and updated icons to the wiki.
The templates now load "Image:Item_[number].png" or "Image:Spell_[number].png"
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 22:48, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Bot Edit not showing as Bot Edit in the Recent Changes ?[]

With the change of the Wiki to UCP bots need to create a BotPassword. I updated EverQuest 2 Wiki:Policy/Bots#What to do after your bot is approved with the following line:
Additional with change of the wiki to UCP: You need to create a BotPassword and log in with that password in order to flag your edits as bot edit. For more information please see Help:Bots @ community
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 22:25, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

UCP - Eughhhh[]

Hello Admins

I wanted to post this on a general EQ2 Wiki forum, but even that is now difficult to locate, so …

I trust you are all well.

Fandoms’ decision to commission UCP was IMHO a huge mistake. UCP aka the Ultimately Crap Platform has rolled out a poorly-coded engine with probably little or no beta-testing, and no regard to the many users or contributors who have willingly invested time and effort into making their individual sites a success. In addition they seem to have migrated a variety of sites covering diverse topics, to a one-size fits all platform, and thereby causing chaos and mayhem. Just take a look here to see the number of disgruntled, dissatisfied and unhappy folk:

https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MisterWoodhouse/The_first_migrations_to_the_Unified_Community_Platform#WikiaArticleComments

As both a user and contributor, I have consistently been finding an ever increasing number of problems with EQ2 Wiki, in its’ new guise. So much so that I have lost the desire to continue contributing under these circumstances. I will continue to visit silently, from time to time and will be happy to return if and when UCP iron out all the problems they have caused. However, I won’t be holding my breath as I suspect that will be never …

Respect, and good luck to all those with the strength and fortitude to remain supporting EQ2 Wiki. Maladryn (talk) 16:38, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Gear Changes[]

With the release of RoS, it looks like they've consolidated all of the +skill bonuses. So there's no more "Spell Skills", "Defense", etc. on items. It's all just "Combat Skills" across the board. This also affects adornments, because (for example) Adornment of Defense and Adornment of Weaponry are essentially the same thing now. All just increase Combat Skills with slightly different values. Megaton238 (talk) 04:28, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the Info
I gonna fetch the current state of all items from census and let my bot run to update the wiki during the next week
means all the items, recipebooks, collections and so on will get an update or added to the wiki
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 16:55, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Equipment Template updated, all items should show "Combat Skills" instead of Offensive, Defensive or Spell skills
The new parameter is called "comskills"
A quick check: roughly 100.000 (which is roughly 1/3 of all articles on the wiki) articles need an update to the new parameter, the bot run my takes a while
The Adornment Template will be next one to be updated.
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 15:15, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
Adorment Template updated as well
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 18:56, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Expanded Expansion / Adventure Pack Details[]

I've worked on putting together an expanded version of the list of expansions and adventure packs that are available. The current page uses a table which is not very mobile friendly, and so I thought I'd create something that had more detail. However, because it's a category page I didn't want to just bigfoot things and replace what was there. You can see what I wrote at User:Megaton238/Sandbox, let me know if it's something you think should just replace the existing table, or as a new page.

The current table is kinda short and i would like to keep that look.
Never the less your Overview looks pretty nice and i think it's worth keeping it as Expansions and Adventure Packs Overview
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 09:17, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Looks good, thanks! Megaton238 (talk) 22:11, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Raid Boss Edits[]

There's an editor who is apparently tagging every lower tier raid boss (or a lot of them) with a single line "CAN be soloed" and I'm not sure what, if anything, should be done there. I undid the change on the page for Darathar, but saw that he's adding that to a whole bunch of others. I don't think that's particularly useful information (at level 100+ you can one-shot virtually every lower tier raid boss in the game), but it's a statement being made without qualification. And those bosses can definitely not be soloed by someone at level who isn't using a chronomage to set their level down. Megaton238 (talk) 02:16, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm thinking it would be more useful to have some designation that a particular lower-tier raid boss or raid zone cannot be soloed due to some mechanic. That would be good information to have for someone who was thinking about soloing the raid for achievements, appearance gear, etc. Megaton238 (talk) 02:41, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
I saw it as well, when i checked the recent changes.
Thanks for the info and posting it here
I placed a message on the users talk page and made a rollback on the articles.
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 08:56, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Fabled Dungeon Category[]

I've created an overview and list of the fabled dungeons and raids (Fabled Dungeons and Raids) and was wondering if you thought it would be worthwhile to create a category for them as well. (e.g.: "Category:Fabled Dungeons" or something along those lines) and then add the fabled instances and public zones to them. Not sure if that would be useful, or just redundant to the list I created. Megaton238 (talk) 01:05, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

hmm it is a nice overview, but not sure if they need an extra category.
There is a kind of similar article allready there Zones By Level, but only up to level 100
The other kind of article with that information is Tiers
Both follow the idea: You wanna do a go to a zone or instance at level X, which ones are there.
So many articles and so much work *sigh*
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 20:21, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Reign of Shadows - AA Changes[]

I recently took a look at some Warlock AA abilities here, and noticed the effects didn't match up with what I was seeing on my character. Low and behold, I found that with the Reign of Shadows expansion, there was a massive re-write to the way that AAs work for nearly every class.

First, many effects were just plain changed. Take Summon Animated Tome for example, one of the ones I was looking at. Originally, it granted Crit Chance, but after the expansion released, that changed to Crit Bonus.

Second, there was a split between the effects that apply on the "Live" servers, and the effects that apply on the "TLE" servers. In fact, on the "TLE" servers, Summon Animated Tome still behaves as it did originally, granting Crit Chance. However, on the "Live" servers, it is now Crit Bonus.

Third, there's a split between the effects that apply from levels 1 thru 119, and effects that apply from level 120 onward. Going back to Summon Animated Tome, the Crit Bonus increase appears to be an even higher percentage at each rank (however I cannot verify this, as my Warlock is not level 120 yet).

Last, it appears the "Description" field is missing entirely from some of these updated AAs. Not sure if they got lazy and decided to axe the description rather than update it, or what. The old descriptions are still in the Census if you look around, but don't apply to the newly updated AAs, and are in some cases incorrect, as they don't actually do what they say they do.

You can see some of this by reviewing the Census, and read about it in the release notes (which I found here: https://www.everquest2.com/news/eq2-patch-notes-ros-12-15-20). The release notes don't even mention or describe an overall change to how AAs work or the rationale behind it, they just list all the AAs that were changed, and the "TLE", "Live", and "Max Level"/"Min Level" stat adjustments (some of which I can only assume have been changed since then, as they don't appear to match up one-for-one with what I'm seeing).

So, anyway, I'm not exactly sure the best way to handle this. For the moment, I've completely re-written the Summon Animated Tome, Summon Drake, and Summon Gargoyle pages, along with their prerequisite Kineticist's Intelligence page. The page is written for "Live" server stats, and assuming the character is levels 1 thru 119.

Definitely take a moment to look at the Census data for any one of those, and you can see both the old status and the new stats, as well as the differences between "TLE" and "Live", and the differences between low levels and max levels.

Another side note, Summon Gargoyle doesn't appear to do anything now unless you're level 120+. Silly devs.

--Donhead (talk) 16:06, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Interesting article. I assume you've seen the AA Changes section of the Reign of Shadows page here
Maladryn (talk) 18:55, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
I hadn't, however that appears to describe the exact same changes I was talking about. So, the question still stands.. how do we represent that information? =)
--Donhead (talk) 16:47, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Background Change?[]

The main page background is little outdated a new expansion is coming out. Could the banner possibly be updated to match the New Expack?

Visions of Vetrovia

Thanks Kindly - Toadlett

background image and header are changed to Visions of Vetrovia now. -- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 17:44, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Overseer Feature, Quests, Agents, Etc[]

Having just returned to the game after a bit of a break, I stumbled across this Overseer Feature, and quickly realized the whole things needs some specialized Wikification. It looks like I'm not the only one, as someone pointed out on the "Category:Overseer Quests" page.

I really have no idea how templates actually work here, but I took a stab at trying to come up with something that would sort of capture the relevant information for Overseer Quests (yes, I know, that's only part of it, but it's likely the most important part):

{{OSQuestInformation|
 altname  = | <!-- RARE. Use ONLY if PAGENAME does not EXACTLY match the quest name -->
 desc     = (NON-BLANK) | <!-- Overseer quest description -->
 oscat    = (NON-BLANK) | <!-- Treasured, Legendary, Fabled, or Celestial --> 
 season   = | <!-- Season the overseer quest becomes available, or blank if available to all -->
 duration = (NON-BLANK) | <!-- Length of time the overseer quest takes, in hours:minutes:seconds -->
 charges  = | <!-- Number of charges, leave blank if unlimited repeatable -->
 agentreq = (NON-BLANK, DEFAULT: 1) | <!-- Minimum number of agents required for this overseer quest, leave blank for one agent -->
 agentmax = | <!-- Maximum number of agent slots for this overseer quest, not including mishap slots, leave blank if one -->
 agentmis = | <!-- Number of mishap slots for this overseer quest, leave blank if zero -->
 postrait = (NON-BLANK) | <!-- Positive traits for this overseer quest, like 'Courageous', 'Lucky', etc -->
 negtrait = (NON-BLANK) | <!-- Negative traits for this overseer quest, like 'Inebriated', 'Cautious', etc -->
 bonus    = (NON-BLANK, DEFAULT: 0%) | <!-- Base bonus chance for this overseer quest, leave blank for 0% -->
 mishap   = (NON-BLANK, DEFAULT: 0%) | <!-- Base mishap chance for this overseer quest, leave blank for 0% -->
 szone    = | <!-- The zone in which you receive the overseer quest. Use * when there are multiple potential start zones -->
 patch    = | <!-- The game release when this overseer quest first appeared. Should an expansion name, or form of LU##-->
 osexp    = | <!-- If overseer quest does NOT grant overseer experience, put 'No' here -->
 prereq   = | <!-- The overseer quest you must complete immediately prior to this one, if any. -->
 start    = (NON-BLANK) | <!-- How to start the overseer quest. Talk to someone? Examine something? -->
 next     = | <!-- The overseer quest that immediately follows this one, if any. -->
 timeline = | <!-- Do not include the word Timeline, leave blank if not applicable -->
 displaytl=y| <!-- IF a template exists for this timeline, show it! -->
 rewards  = (NON-BLANK, CAN BE SINGLE ITEM, OR LIST OF ITEMS USING *ITEM1 *ITEM2) | <!-- Rewards granted by this overseer quest -->
}}

Thoughts? Suggestions? Flames? And most importantly, who can actually make this work?

--Donhead (talk) 03:42, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

You haven't stated what you think is wrong with this article. I've just had a quick look, and it looks fine to me ...
Maladryn (talk) 09:22, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Nothing wrong with the article itself. I'm trying to say that there currently aren't templates built to handle Overseer Quests. The Overseer "feature" in the game is significantly different than the existing "quest" mechanic, and the template aren't built to handle it. Overseer quests need a number of different variables, as I've tried to spell out in the example above. It would be nice if we could get this site to actually understand what an Overseer Quest is, and how to display it properly on the screen, assuming someone can enter it properly.
--Donhead (talk) 11:34, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Ahhh ok, I understand the point you're making, now. Sadly, that is beyond my own capabilities. You would need to discuss this with our "Template King", Chillispike.
However, I'm wondering whether demand for the Overseer article would justify the amount of effort required to develop such tailored templates?
When the Overseer quests were first introduced, I did try them out to see what they involved, only to become bored with them quite quickly! Of course this is my own personal view, and I accept that others may find them exciting, fun and rewarding.
So, over to Chilli ... Maladryn (talk) 12:21, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi Admin Chillispike "Master of De Leet" here :)
Making a own Template for overseer quests makes sense for me ..
I'll can use questtemplate as basis and trans form it.
It is a bit komplex so it takes a bit of time to make it work.
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 09:57, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, that's kind of where I started with the quasi-template I created in my original comment immediately above. I think that captures all the relevant information that would be needed for the Overseer Quests. If I knew better how to actually make it work, I would have done more, but that's about as far as I could get with it. Please reach out if you have questions, especially if you aren't familiar with the Overseer mechanic at all. There's good articles here on it, but happy to go over it more if you need assistance. I'm still getting used to it myself.
--Donhead (talk) 16:39, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Template is created, i changed it a bit as well
Please give me feedback at Template_talk:OSQuestInformation
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 20:40, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Template utilized on a few pages, and feedback provided on the talk page!
--Donhead (talk) 06:01, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

For the URGENT attention of Chillispike[]

Chilli, I have left you a message on your talk page regarding an urgent issue that requires attention immediately.
If you're unable to respond to emergency issues at short notice, please set up someone on your behalf who can be contacted quickly, and act in your capacity.
Thanks
Maladryn (talk) 15:15, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Sorry i was quite busy, should be sorted and i think of what we can do.
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 13:06, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

User:141.155.9.226[]

Will someone please check out the above users' activities. I'm tired of repeatedly putting this Users' posts up for deletion! ...
Thanks Maladryn (talk) 19:37, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay.
User blocked and article protected
-- User:Chillispike  User_talk:Chillispike 22:16, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Cheers Maladryn (talk) 22:55, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Strange page[]

Please take a look at this page: Dumb fire created on 27/02/24. Seems a bit weird to me?
Thanks Maladryn (talk) 16:57, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

An admin urgently needed[]

Will someone please check out the activities of User: Jacobproper1 and permanently remove/block him from this site. Also please delete the pages he's creating, eg Queen Antonia Bayle (Scarstone Commander's Tent: Small Council), which are growing in number.
Thanks Maladryn (talk) 07:52, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

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